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Offline CMDL_GUY

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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 09:51:05 PM »
Is that a TEXAS law  or a National law.  That link you had makes it sound like a Texas law.
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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 05:13:17 AM »
You will be hearing more about this law as state's begin to pass and adopt it.

Texas is joining Tenn.,,Illinois, Maryland in adopting this law and making it mandatory.
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“Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”   -John Adams

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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 07:23:08 AM »
The Iwatsu used to do this by default.  I miss that system.   :016:
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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
I hate when the politicians name laws like this and even get involved. This is something that is just common sense and should have been mandated by the 911 system from day one. If it had been, all systems made for use in this country would have had the provision- and manufacturers should have known better without them being told. Stupid manufacturers, stupid government.

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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 11:26:57 AM »
While I was product manager at Comdial we had a solution as far back as the mid nineties!

Many of you may not remember, in addition to dialing a "9" to get an outside line you could also dial an "8" for long distance in a hotel/motel environment. Businesses would dial the digit "8" for WATS or FX lines.

We used ARS patterns to insure an E911 call would get out!
If you dialed 911 with no digits to follow you were sent to an "insert digit pattern" that sent out 9911
If you dialed 8911 with no digits to follow you were sent to an "insert digit pattern" that sent out 9911
If you dialed 1911 with no digits to follow you were sent to an "insert digit pattern" that sent out 9911

We though of every possible way it would be dialed and built a pattern for it. 
YES......my hotel product always used ARS......no exceptions unless a dealer foolishly changed it
In addition we had the front desk alerted when any of these patters were dialed. When emergency personnel arrived at the hotel, the front desk clerk was ready to direct them to the room which dialed 911.

Once again, we're making laws for people who do not think!
I did this over 30 years ago!   I also asked for it to be hard coded into the software but it didn't happen.

I believe all systems still have ARS or LCR or what ever you want to call it.  All they have to do is hard code the patterns in the software!
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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 10:30:29 PM »
Iwatsu and Inter-Tel were a lot alike.  It didn't matter if you were on a trunk or intercom, 911 went to 911.  It's why Inter-Tel changed from dialing 9 for an outside line to dial 8.
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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 07:32:05 AM »
I supported Kari's Law on change.org.  Seems obvious to allow both 911 and 9911. 

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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 09:18:50 AM »
I think it makes sense for the manufacturers to want to do it.  Now as to if it should be illegal for a company to sell a system that doesn't do that in this country is a different perspective of issue.  I think many here have had enough of government over regulation. 

 
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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 09:41:43 AM »
I agree. That's why I criticized government involvement and another stupid name for a law to make headlines.

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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2016, 05:58:03 PM »
It also makes sense that, in the ever expanding remote environment, systems can specify where the 911 call is originating. If the telephone system can't output from where the originating call is coming, what good is it?

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Re: New 911 Law Goes Into Effect This Week
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2016, 09:45:17 PM »
That's a good point and should have been part of this law. But because we are talking politicians making headlines here you really wouldn't expect them to put any effort into investigating the situation beyond the case at hand would you?

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