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« on: August 30, 2011, 09:51:43 PM »
What have you heard about Windows 8.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2011, 07:21:20 AM »
I'm still leery of moving away from XP.  :016:
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2011, 08:10:45 AM »
I'm still leery of moving away from XP.  :016:

I agree, but support will soon be gone!  Support is only available for SP3 as it is.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 10:01:49 AM »
I hear you Marv.  Most of our employee locations were still using XP Pro until recently when we had to move the hardware forward.  At the largest location we went to 7 Pro 64 bit, and as much as it pains me to say it, I have to give it points for stability.  To add to stability we took away all the flashy themes etc. and locked them down to "Best Performance" mode which really gives you an XP look and feel.  We always did that with our XP workstations too, so they really didn't feel like they were missing anything.

If you ever want to play with the option, go the the start menu and RIGHT click on Computer>Properties>Advanced System Settings (If you're in 7)>Advanced Tab>Performance Settings Button>and click the radio button for Adjust For Best Performance.

We have to remote into our machines a LOT and the themes in 7 kill you on bandwidth otherwise.

As for 8, my sister's husband would be the best authority I know.  I'll ask him and get back to you.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 01:14:49 PM »
My main reason for starting this thread was to see if anyone has heard some of the same rumors about Windows 8 which I have. I hear Windows 8 will be more like a browser than an operating system and we will be storing data at the website of the software provider.  Quickbooks already has an option to use their software by logging into their site and not have the sofeware resident on your PC. The other thing that bothers me is sites like Carbonite. I don't want my data anywhere I don't have complete control. I got this information from the Kim Komando Show.   
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 02:39:55 PM »
Larry that is a BIG movement, and all the "cloud" hype is part of the propaganda.  My brother in law is head of logistics and procurement for a large hospital chain and as such deals with this daily as he negotiates all the site licenses.  With medical records you can imagine the implications.  The software programs are moving toward a model where you lease the programs or pay a monthly fee to use Office, etc. and it's all on-line.  Google already has their on-line apps, and if you go into Hotmail you'll see Microsoft Office programs on-line to use.  Our title company software vendors have been trying to push us that way for about 10 years, and I've held my ground with a "Not no, but HELL NO" response.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 05:40:20 PM »
Hey Larry:

I spoke too soon.  He told me that according to their MS rep, so much is still changing that it's predominately all conjecture at this point.  I didn't realize they hadn't even released alpha yet.  Sorry. :007:
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 10:27:12 PM »
Thanks Trace.

Has anyone gone with the online Quickbooks?
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 12:40:15 PM »
Thanks Trace.

Has anyone gone with the online Quickbooks?

I've thought about it a couple of times, but it seems pricey.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 03:26:30 PM »
I've thought about it a couple of times, but it seems pricey.

Well price would certainly be a big concern, but how do you feel about your customer base and the whole financial picture of your company on another site?
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 10:10:12 AM »
Well price would certainly be a big concern, but how do you feel about your customer base and the whole financial picture of your company on another site?

I guess that doesn't concern me too much.  Heck, I use Intuit's "TurboTax Online" service. Nowadays our whole lives are on someone else's computers whether we like it or not. :002:

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2011, 01:40:49 PM »
That's very tru Larry, BUT...

QuickBooks is extremely easy to crack the password.  Don't believe me?  Google Quickbooks password crack.  I did it in under 5 minutes.

Bad enough when the PC's are here in the office where they could be stolen, but at least I would know about it at the time.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 07:17:10 PM »
I guess that doesn't concern me too much.  Heck, I use Intuit's "TurboTax Online" service.

Peoples tax returns are pretty much public knowledge anyway. I would be very concerned about my business records, correspondence and any other private information getting into the wrong hands because of off site bookkeeping, word processing, spreadsheats and other applications. Then of course there are medical records. This is got to be some kind of joke. Businesses spend millions on security to protect the data contained on their machines and servers. What kind of idiot would allow their sensitive information to be kept who knows where and not under their control? How many times has credit card account numbers and other personal information wound up in the wrong hands lately?

I'll tell you who is behind this. The government.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2011, 07:49:07 PM »
I'll tell you who is behind this. The government.


I agree with you Hal. And it will be some Government idiot who takes everything home on a notbook PC that gets compromised. I do not use online software and I do not use online backup services. I don't even have my data on the "C" drive. I use an external hard drive that does not stay with the PC.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »
From what I have seen of Windows 8 I don't think it is going to be anything we want to touch at work or on my own machines. In my opinion it is too "Dumbed down" to be of any use.

What works great on my Droid is not what I want on my laptop or desktop and that is pretty much what 8 reminds me of. I think MS has forgotten that not every user is a newbie.

As for the "Cloud"... I have mixed emotions but it doesn't scare me like it used to. If you encrypt your data it will be almost as safe as if it were on your own servers. But then again, at work, we do NOT store certain records on their servers.
 
If you get down to it, is your data any safer on your own servers that are connected to the Internet or are they just as safe on on-line servers. I guess it all depends on how well you secure it regardless of where it resides.

I think what it all boils down to is that any machine and/or server that is connected to the Internet is, in essence, a part of the Cloud.  

I almost forgot to say, The Coud is a different way of saying the Internet.  :011: