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Offline Grider

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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2012, 06:54:10 PM »
Here's a beauty we had to work on a couple of weeks ago.  Yep, most of that is fiber!



Since I am on very slow internet download speed the pics load very slow but the text is immediate. What scared me was I was thinking OMG, Larry is posting the location he went to on my behalf the other day.
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2012, 08:33:43 PM »
 :011: don't see any service calls waiting to happen there... wow.

Does nobody have pride in their workmanship these days?
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2012, 07:12:28 PM »
Since I am on very slow internet download speed the pics load very slow but the text is immediate. What scared me was I was thinking OMG, Larry is posting the location he went to on my behalf the other day.

You mean the broom-office supply-Christmas decoration storage-server room-crap we don't know what to do with-phone closet?  No, this was a different place.  :015:

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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2012, 08:44:10 AM »
Does nobody have pride in their workmanship these days?
You gotta know what workmanship is first...

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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2012, 12:05:00 PM »
Does nobody have pride in their workmanship these days?
You gotta know what workmanship is first...

-Hal
I didn't think of it like that... good point Hal :)
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2013, 06:07:51 AM »
Here is what it looked like in the client's old suite:



Here is what it looks like after I moved them to a new suite:



If you look closely, you can see the bang-up job that TWC did on top of my clean install.



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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2013, 05:15:14 PM »
ya know... looking at that picture makes me cringe with the TWC slop. I may move it into the enclosed cabinet next time I'm on site and throw some white caulking in their screw holes and not even charge the client. Just so ugly.  :023:
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2013, 11:12:45 AM »
1) TWC clearly did not put enough stickers on that EMTA!
2) What is with the sad excuse for a 25 pair cable they supplied?
How many lines do they have? My eye doctor has five, and they installed 2 EMTAs, with modular connections...4 lines on one and the 5th on its own...weird!
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2013, 12:18:28 PM »
Jeff, it is actually a 12 pair factory cable that CATV companies use on the 8 line EMTAs.  Here, Cox and Comcast both use either four or eight line ones, depending upon the size of the line order.
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2013, 04:08:14 PM »
It's actually not too bad Tony. I wish they supplied Arris EMTAs like that here, all we get is what Jeff describes. It's for the phone lines so I wouldn't put it in with the network stuff in your cabinet plus that gives the cable bozos an excuse to go in there every time there is a problem or to replace it. Better where it is.  I would neaten the 12 pair up, ty-rap it in with the station wiring going to the 66 blocks. Then again I might even throw it in the garbage and replace it with a pre-made Amphenol to Amphenol 25 pair considerably shorter.

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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2013, 06:43:01 PM »
This is not a G-string on the left hip of a stripper. It is a 4 pair that someone cut and twisted back together. Would have been fine but you got to keep them separated.
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2013, 06:58:25 PM »
ouch. some people should never be allowed around any low voltage cabling. ugh. lemme guess - a geek squad member?  :011:
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2013, 06:00:49 AM »
Soo... this is what I ran into yesterday. FUN. A perfect shining example of why electricians (or any other trade without proper training and experience) should stick to electrical and leave the damned low voltage to professional structured cabling specialists. Ugh. Hasn't that memo been passed around the sparky shops enough? LOL

I present to you in all its glory... the "make up your own coloring code, pin outs and smash Cat5 jack like Hulk install" - http://ohdt.co/18hrk18
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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2013, 11:02:08 AM »
Ok Tony, I've asked you to stay out of my phone room.  :011:

That looks like one of those jobs where the best thing to do is tie new cable to the old and pull a new feed through on everything, start over, and bill accordingly.

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Re: How Not To Install Cabling (Pictures Of Ugly Work)
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2013, 07:43:02 AM »
Ok Tony, I've asked you to stay out of my phone room.  :011:

That looks like one of those jobs where the best thing to do is tie new cable to the old and pull a new feed through on everything, start over, and bill accordingly.



That may still happen.

Two cables (1 voice and 1 data) were damaged, so I called their foreman in to have his guys pull new ones (so I could observe and correct them). They started the pulls on the jack side of the box... had one guy feed the entire run through the conduit... enough for the entire length of the run. Then with that balled up mess, start pulling it through the ceiling to the MDF, then go back and zip-ty from MDF->jack. It was the most inefficient way to pull 2 cables I'd ever seen. So, I gave them a crash course in low voltage pulling and routing for a structured cabling install. The 2 guys pulling cable (literally a 40' run took 2 guys an hour to PULL and dress in - not even terminate)

So at any rate, after we got them up and working, I called their manager and explained that it would behove them to set up a training before they do this again and he was very agreeable and they admittedly didn't know how to do low voltage, but thought they could figure it out. So, at least he was easy to work with and his guys were nice... they just simply didn't know what they were doing and got in over their heads.
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