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Phone Systems => Avaya / Lucent => Topic started by: matherton on July 12, 2021, 10:07:35 AM

Title: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: matherton on July 12, 2021, 10:07:35 AM
Is it possible to convert these to SIP without using an IPoffice system?

I have a customer with a CS1K (Option11c upgraded) with quite a few of the 1120 and 1220 phones, they are looking at a SIP system upgrade path and want to know if these phones can be converted to SIP firmware, to continue getting more life out of the handsets.
I saw its possible if migrating to an IP Office, but the customer doesnt want to go the Avaya route. 

Is this possible outside through just a TFTP server, and is the firmware obtainable outside Avaya?
Thank you,
Marty
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: liquidvw on July 12, 2021, 10:37:52 AM
This is probably not much help, but on the Avaya red side upgrades are done via http/https server.  I just run an apache server to host my firmware.  You can download the firmware from here:  https://support.avaya.com/
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: mongo5150 on July 12, 2021, 03:18:29 PM
I have an IPO in AWS that is public if you need a server to hit for upgrades...
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: matherton on July 20, 2021, 12:45:58 PM
Sent you a PM
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: matherton on July 22, 2021, 09:43:11 AM
Well lots of learning about the old Nortel 1120e and 1140e sets, and I guess they were marvels for their time in the early 2000's when engineered and built in the late 2000s. 
I was able to upgrade the 1120e to SIP V3 (my sample of the product is first-gen which doesn't get V4 support) and the 1140e to SIP V4. 
There's quite a bit of 'already researched' work by others out there on this topic, its just -what keywords to use to find- but I was able to connect both of these (now with Avaya SIP firmware on them) to my Grandstream UCM6302.  (Doing the legwork for interop testing for a customer who wants to use our Grandstream PBX we've installed as a Nurse Call middle-ware server/call manipulator for the Nurse Call notifications)
The SIP software is basic - it does connect and work as a single line phone with the standard basic SIP functionality (transfer, conference, DND, HOLD, voicemail lamp control) but I can't seem to get more than 1 line on each set.  Documentation says its possible but perhaps I need the absolute latest version of firmware because both sets ignore the additional line key login programming.

Programming is really only done by creating a text document and having that document pulled by the set using TFTP or HTTP, same as how firmware gets sent.  No built-in webpage we've come to enjoy on more recent products.  Keypad programming is limited to IP address connectivity info to get it on the network, and provisioning server info to tell it where to get its programming.  Programming keys beyond line key to get it logged into the PBX must be done through non-intuitive button pressing on the keypad.

Was a fun interop testing project.  Now the customer can make decisions about what they want to do for an upgrade.  (keep all their old Nortel IP phones but with very basic connectivity and buttons that we wouldn't program for them, or upgrade the desk sets.)  These sets seem physically quite well made, some of the buttons are a little glitchy but dialing and audio quality seem quite good.
Thanks for the help guys
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: mongo5150 on July 23, 2021, 12:24:42 PM
Glad you got it.
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: RATHER BE FISHING on July 24, 2021, 09:58:31 PM
Interesting project. I have taken the 1120 and 1140 sets that were on an old CS2100 CICM and reflashed them from UNISTIM Nortel flash to SIP and reinstalled them on an Avaya AS5300. Was able to get multiple line appearances.
Title: Re: Upgrade 1120e and 1220e sets to SIP?
Post by: telemarv on July 26, 2021, 07:16:17 AM
The beauty of the 11xx phones is you can plug a keyboard into the USB port. Makes user programming a cinch.