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Life in the Quiet Zone
« on: December 30, 2019, 07:30:43 PM »
Are you tired of all the technology and would like to get away from it all?

West Virginia Town Avoids Electronics for Science


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141010-radio-telescope-green-bank-west-virginia-astronomy/



Because of its vast size and sophisticated design, the GBT is exquisitely sensitive to even the faintest radio pulses coming from space. For the same reason, it is also extremely susceptible to electronic interference. Any device that generates electromagnetic radiation—a cell phone, a television, a wireless Internet router—can skew its data. And so the people who live in these parts must, by law, forego some of the gadgets that most of us take for granted.

Those restrictions began in the 1950s, when the Federal Communications Commission created the National Radio Quiet Zone, a 13,000-square-mile swath of sparsely populated countryside that straddles the borders of West Virginia, Virginia, and Maryland. Use of the airwaves inside the zone is strictly regulated to ensure that the high-tech telescopes at Green Bank and nearby Sugar Grove can operate with minimal disturbance.
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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2019, 09:53:02 PM »
Hey! Doesn't that "OPEN" sign have some kind of controller?

What about outsiders driving through or into town? Can't make them switch to diesel at the border. Big parking lot maybe and someone with a diesel Uber takes them around? 

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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2019, 10:42:09 PM »
I'm surprised they can obtain any kind of compliance at all with the entitlement attitudes.
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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2019, 06:49:15 AM »
I agree with both of you.   Since this is only 83 miles from me, I plan to visit and see what's going on. 

Those restrictions began in the 1950s, when the Federal Communications Commission created the National Radio Quiet Zone, a 13,000-square-mile swath of sparsely populated countryside that straddles the borders of West Virginia, Virginia, and Maryland.

My farm is close to the center of that and I have never heard of any restriction!  You would think amateur radio people would have all kinds of conflicts.
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“Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”   -John Adams

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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2019, 11:27:31 AM »
I certainly understand where they are coming from, but back in the 50's things were A LOT different than today.

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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2019, 06:57:06 PM »
You would think amateur radio people would have all kinds of conflicts.

You really would think that would have been brought to your attenion very early on in your radio career.  As for cell phones, my guess is that there is no coverage there rendering them basically useless. 
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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2019, 11:12:55 PM »
There is a question on the Amateur Extra ham radio license test referring to this NRQZ (national radio quiet zone).
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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2020, 02:41:08 PM »
Learn something new every day. I have been around radio all my life and never heard of the NRQZ. I would have assumed without research that this was a holdover policy from the old days of the likes that prevented and restricted airspace around Oak Ridge Tennessee because of nuclear research facility.

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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2020, 05:19:15 PM »
Learn something new every day. I have been around radio all my life and never heard of the NRQZ.

Don't feel bad, my farm is in the zone and I didn't know about it!  Between Harrisonburg and Staunton on the map!

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Re: Life in the Quiet Zone
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2020, 05:32:17 PM »
As for cell phones, my guess is that there is no coverage there rendering them basically useless.

Just because there are no cell sites doesn't mean that cell phones in the area are going to stop transmitting unless people turn them off or at least put them in airplane mode. Matter of fact if there are no cell sites within range I believe the phone will go to max allowable power looking for one.

I can see people who live there not having cell phones but what about people from outside?

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