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The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« on: September 17, 2013, 05:29:26 PM »


   That's all


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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 05:32:53 PM »
Feel better now?

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 06:56:07 PM »
Feel better now?

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Nope......  so far in I doubt I'll ever see daylight.

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2013, 06:57:29 PM »
My dad has been encouraging me to relocate to NC where he and my uncle will fund my living expenses AND set me up with a new business venture.  I had to say a resounding NO!  Certainly not in this business anyway.

I'd rather be poor and work for someone else (which I'm doing now).  I suffer now after owning a telecom business for 27 years and I can say with complete certainty that I will never, repeat never do it again.

I can't say that it was all bad in this business, in fact when I started right after divestiture in 1984, I did pretty well.  I might even go as far to say that I did VERY well.  At one point, I had 20 employees, six vans, a warehouse full of nearly everything and even a bucket truck that was on the road all the time.  We had a seemingly non-stop supply of work.  Hell, even Bell Atlantic and GTE were referring me business.  I drove nice cars, lived in nice houses, took nice vacations and thought it was the thing to do.

Then, the IT "professionals" entered the scene.

No more.  No more.  Did I say NO MORE?
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 07:09:23 PM »
Oh hell, I'm only about 10% over budget on a 1.6MM job that is a little over 75% complete. ......   I can neither walk away or afford to finish.   

Selling assets for 60 cents on the dollar is not fun, Not having trusted peers to talk with makes it less so.

I'd gladly run off to NC !!

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 07:55:39 PM »
Hell Ed... I'd take em up on it and open a bar, they'll always be busy and you'd be good at it.

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM »
Ed, what Tom said...... :011: :066:
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 09:32:34 PM »
^^^ Am I the only one who sees a problem with this business plan?  :022:

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 09:33:12 PM »
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this business plan?  :022:

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Nope!   :011: :066:
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 09:34:10 PM »
Although if you go through with it, Mark and I will come to NC for happy hour(s).
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 09:36:20 PM »
Although if you go through with it, Mark and I will come to NC for happy hour(s).

You can stop at the farm and your way, them we can all go!  :003:
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 11:20:56 PM »
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 07:01:29 AM »
^^^ Am I the only one who sees a problem with this business plan?  :022:

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Wasn't really the business model that I'd hoped for.   Throw in the brother in law of a general contractor who doesn't have a clue how to schedule subcontractors, subs that leave the job for weeks at a time, some rotten weather destroying previously done work.  Really... we've worked for these people before with good success but this job has been a 14 month 'bad day', nothing I mean nothing has gone the way it should have.

Yes I built in a little fluff for problems, but who can anticipate day after day of it?   Since I have been reading the posts at the 'other place' and here since 2006 and do respect and value some of the support and advice given to others.  Normally I read these posts to unwind and gain some knowledge on a hobby of telephony and Norstar systems.  No, I didn't come looking to find a shoulder to cry on, mostly just venting about my own stupidity I suppose.  Maybe some person to person interaction from a business standpoint. One thing is sure, I never thought that I would be snickered at. 

Forgive me if this post sounds rude, truth is I just dumped almost everything I have worked for into some dumbasses project, it's somewhat hard to think clearly at times.

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2013, 07:15:29 AM »
Jeff... I can assure you that MacGuyver's comments were in no way directed at you, but addressed Test-ok's comments to Ed.  I am not personally a business owner, but I know the people here well enough to call them friends and I can assure that no ill will toward you was intended in the least.  I'm sure that the guys will be in to clarify themselves, but I didn't want you thinking that there was any snickering in here regarding what must be an incredibly difficult time for you.
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 07:22:05 AM »
Stacey is correct, our comments were directed towards the business of the bar!   :066:

Hell Ed... I'd take em up on it and open a bar, they'll always be busy and you'd be good at it.

No disrespect was meant towards you. I'm very sorry for the confusion.
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2013, 09:53:24 AM »
Jeff please accept my apologies if I didn't make the direction of the comment clear.  As Stacey said, it was actually a joke between friends that was directed at Ed owning a bar, and Larry jumped right in behind me.  While it would be a load of fun for us to go hang out with Ed, it would be a bit like putting a pack of hound dogs in charge of a butcher shop.
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2013, 05:06:33 PM »
Sorry..it was my fault for getting off topic...Damn you Ed. look what you made me gone done :023:

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2013, 05:33:14 PM »
Stacey, once again it takes a woman to straighten me out, Thank you.

Thanks everyone, and sorry.......  guess I may be a little sensitive right now and I just took it wrong.  I appreciate everyone's responses.

I've got only good things to say about all the folks here, and have received a lot of good help in the past from Ed V, Marv, CurlyCord, Rich C., Arthur, and others I'm sure whose names won't come to me at the moment,  THANKS AGAIN!

Ed... went back through posts and just learned of your troubles, sorry for that and I know you'll be bouncing back and if you're anything like me you probably won't be happy working for someone else anyhow.  Whatever you decide I know you will do it well and professionally.   I do kind of miss reading those soap box rants however.

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 06:41:40 PM »
 I do kind of miss reading those soap box rants however.

Boy those go back a ways.  :011:
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2013, 08:13:17 PM »
Well, now that we brought up the soapbox....

....So I'm at a construction progress meeting the other day and the architect asks me how many RJ45 jacks we have installed to date.

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Seriously, thanks to all of you for the compliments and associated humor.  I guess that I do have a bit of a reputation in more ways than one.  Here I was thinking that Hal was the one with the reputation.  Silly me.
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2013, 09:12:17 PM »
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I was thinking that Hal was the one with the reputation.
yes Hal has a reputation, a grumpy ol hermit.  :022:

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 05:53:56 AM »
....So I'm at a construction progress meeting the other day

Ed, I quit going to ours about 5 months ago what a waste of time, I now read the meeting minutes and if I disagree with anything I send the architect an email stating my case.   Our job meetings are not mandatory however

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2013, 06:00:50 AM »
 I do kind of miss reading those soap box rants however.

Boy those go back a ways.  :011:

Yeah, I really miss having to brew a pot of coffee and taking a smoke break in the middle of reading some of those!  :011:

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2013, 08:04:52 AM »
Stacey, once again it takes a woman to straighten me out, Thank you.

That's the only reason they keep me around here.  :011:  :015:
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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2013, 10:17:18 AM »
Although if you go through with it, Mark and I will come to NC for happy hour(s).

I'll meet you there Trace.  How about a "Happy Weekend"?
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2013, 11:21:08 AM »
I'll meet you there Trace.  How about a "Happy Weekend"?

Thursday to Tuesday?  :011:

Jeff this won't get you back on budget, but if you join us you may not care.  :022:
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2013, 11:55:48 AM »
I'll meet you there Trace.  How about a "Happy Weekend"?

Thursday to Tuesday?  :011:

Jeff this won't get you back on budget, but if you join us you may not care.  :022:

Well.............I only drink "between" the holidays...........I start at New Years and continue until Christmas!   :066:
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2013, 03:24:52 PM »
Well.............I only drink "between" the holidays...........I start at New Years and continue until Christmas!   :066:

What do you do from Christmas until New Year's Day? That's a long time...
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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2013, 06:58:42 PM »
What do you do from Christmas until New Year's Day? That's a long time...

He said he drinks between holidays.  Remember?   :011:
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« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2013, 07:07:14 PM »
Trace is right, Christmas to New Years is just a shorter binge!   :011:
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

“Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”   -John Adams

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2013, 07:19:05 PM »
And I quit drinking 28 years ago  :002:

off (what) topic...   when is one allowed to SEND messages on the board?


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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2013, 07:39:33 PM »
And I quit drinking 28 years ago  :002:

off (what) topic...   when is one allowed to SEND messages on the board?

I changed you to Tech status Jeff.  You should be able to send now. :054:
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2013, 07:47:35 PM »
woooooooooot!........  er um,   thanks!

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Re: The mental stress of business ownership is significant
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2013, 02:43:44 PM »
Jeff, it helps me when I can bounce problems off someone else.

Why don't you list 1 or 2 problems your having, you may get some insight to solutions.

We have all been through it.