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The Phone Booth / Re: After COVID-19
« Last post by Keighlar on May 08, 2020, 08:04:02 PM »
That's great for higher education.  I don't want to go into a classroom, either, but I'm really concerned about primary and grade schools.  Trace, I know you have it all down to a science, and you have truly amazing children, but you are not the norm.  Look at some of the parents out there.  Are they fit to teach?  Secondly, at that age, school is more about socialization than education.  We already have a generation of children growing up with their faces buried in their phones, yet who are afraid to use it to make an actual call.  Imagine what a generation of people will look like that didn't socialize at all!  Lastly, most families need two working parents to make ends meet.  When you force one to stay home or to revert to paying for childcare, you've increased the class of people who need to rely on governmental assistance by multitudes.  That forces us another step down to road to normalizing socialism.  It's already knocking on our front door with no shame. 

I know that most of the country is afraid, but we cannot allow ourselves to curl up and shrink away from what it means to be human.  This cannot be our "new norm."  I refuse to believe that this is all it takes to bring about the end of a civilization. 
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The Phone Booth / Re: After COVID-19
« Last post by hbiss on May 08, 2020, 06:02:44 PM »
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My favorites are the prerecorded live classes.  I can take them on my own time, pause, stop, start, go deal with things and come back.  I can push through the questions asked by the idiots, and if something valuable is addressed I can back it up, slow it down, replay it, take detailed notes, etc.

Same here. Maybe it's the years spent on boards like this that make it second nature.

-Hal
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I've got news for you.......I couldn't get through the 2nd one either!   :011:
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The Phone Booth / Re: After COVID-19
« Last post by MacGyver on May 08, 2020, 05:45:12 PM »
Don't hold back, Sam.  You can tell us how you really feel.    :015:

I guess it's just a difference in preference.  I almost won't attend an on site class anymore.  I much prefer online.  In fact I almost won't attend a live online class.  My favorites are the prerecorded live classes.  I can take them on my own time, pause, stop, start, go deal with things and come back.  I can push through the questions asked by the idiots, and if something valuable is addressed I can back it up, slow it down, replay it, take detailed notes, etc.  When taking college classes I would blow through my semester in a few weeks.   :011:
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The Phone Booth / Re: After COVID-19
« Last post by silversam on May 08, 2020, 09:31:44 AM »
Distance learning is nothing new. They had it in the Mid-West for farming families in the early 20th Century. Kid's got their lessons by mail and over the radio and were expected to mail back tests and homework.

I teach several diverse classes - some technical, some not. The technical classes are on hold for now and the non-technical (actually Bible Study classes through my Temple) are still ongoing and - if anything are more popular than ever.

My $0.02 - Distance learning sucks.

It's OK if all you're doing is lecturing, but if you're looking for feedback from the class it's very difficult.

We've tried using Zoom and Google meeting. We're sticking with Zoom - because it sucks less. (I understand there is a "real" product out there - "Blackboard" maybe? That is supposed to work better, but we don't have it.)

The way my classes run now we need three people to administer them. Me, Fran and our Associate Rabbi . Someone to lead the class, someone to admit people and follow the chat and see questions coming in and someone to scroll the documents, highlight them and keep people on track. (We go around the "room" and everyone reads a page or so and then we discuss).

I tried doing it all myself the first time and it was impossible.

You do need the paid-for version of Zoom. It lasts you run longer than 40 minutes, allows you to appoint co-hosts and offers a phone line for people to dial in if they can't get on through the Web.

But all in all - it sucks.

My son is a teacher at one of the top NYC Public High Schools and is teaching his roster of 170 students remotely every day. He's got some better software than I do, but he hates it too. It's better than nothing but it's not real education the way he'd like it.

Could it be? I'm sure it could be much better. I have a friend that got a Masters and a PhD on line. Is it as good an experience as going to a brick and mortar school? I really don't think so.

With the right software - ON BOTH ENDS  - and with enough support staff it could be a whole lot better. But for now?

I think it sucks.


Sam
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The Phone Booth / Re: Snow In May!
« Last post by hbiss on May 07, 2020, 10:47:40 PM »
Relax. Summer is coming (for a week or two then it will snow again.)

-Hal
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The Phone Booth / Re: Snow In May!
« Last post by Keighlar on May 07, 2020, 08:09:31 PM »
It's just demonically cold.  :(  I have to haul wood in from the back yard tomorrow to get through the rest of this winter... in the SPRING.
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The Phone Booth / Re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
« Last post by hbiss on May 07, 2020, 04:56:58 PM »
I believe you are correct in your times. Unfortunately some vegetables like celery wilt after a few days and have to be thrown away.

Nobody has done any research that I know of on how long the virus can live on organic surfaces or if that is even a factor.

I do know that the virus will die quickly on copper.

-Hal 
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